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The prime minister has been asked if it his still his policy, following his speech in July to announce the government’s AI framework, that companies should not be able to use Australian books, music, art or news to build or train AI without the artist’s control.

He says, “absolutely, that’s our position,” adding that his statement was welcomed by AI companies. The ABC’s David Speers says that two of those companies, OpenAI and Anthropic, want copyright laws watered down, asking if the government’s policy means there will be no changes to copyright laws.

What it means is control and monetisation of [copyright]. You know, [AI] is a global phenomenon, so we have a national interest in leaning in here and being proactive, and that’s precisely what we’re doing.

Well, President Trump, of course, will act in the interests of the US, but also there’s a need for all of us to act in the interests of humanity … I think President Trump knows that at the moment the US is essentially ahead of China when it comes to the race that is on for the development of this new technology. But it is in the world’s interests that there be engagement. I think it’s a positive sign that President Trump is meeting President Xi [Jinping] this week, and I am hopeful that there will be positive engagement out of it.

Well, no, I don’t think that’s a contradiction … there’s not a contradiction because it is in the US’s interests for social licence to occur here. They have the big companies that are based here. It’s a driver of economic growth. When we look at future growth, it is estimated that AI is already potentially adding about 1% to GDP in the world’s largest economy, so it is certainly in the US’ interests for there to be that recognition of human interests. And President Trump, I’m sure, understands that.

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